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I went to Houck middle School when mr. Billera taught band there, He seemed like the coolest teacher ever... he was my favorite. When I found out what he did I was totally shocked! It made me think, That there were times when I was alone with him after school in his office. He could have raped me or something... EWWWW! he diserves what he is getting!
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listen here...for that comment before, "I'm sorry everybody..." that's not funny, please do not joke like that, this is ment for serious things ok? cool, i'm glad we got that settled. now tell me how u really feel, "Joe Billera."
i'm sorry eveybody...
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To Stacey Lambert:
I am the new band instructor at North Salem High. I knew Joe Billera. He was a good friend of mine. Because of what happened to you Miss Lambert you have decided not to participate in the High school band program. It is unfortunate that you have to hide from your own mistakes and run away from your talents. Did you forget that you are the one who stayed after class? Was it so long ago that you forgot that you are the one who offered yourself to babysit? Did you forget the occasinal winks and the shoulder brushes? Or maybe you forgot the sexual intercourse that you so proudly bragged to all of your girlfriends? My point here Stacey is that you made a decision. It was your own. He is no more evil than the 24 year old man who cheats on his 24 year old girlfriend/wife. Did you not have a brain? Could you not think for yourself? You knew what kind of man you were getting involved with. I think this is a small case of jealousy Stacey.
ps. I am actually surprised you had the courage to say what you said on this public blog. However, very stupid...looks like you'll continue to make stupid decisions...
I went to Houck and I was one of the victims. I have to say that he manipulated me and he does not deserve any sympathy....what he did to me and other CHILDREN is that of what a predator does to his prey. He new exactly what he was doing and took thte time to find the moste insecure children to take advantage of...this happened over a course of years..meaning he was patient with his evil doing and contemplated his next victim...he is a demon in human form and needs to go back home!
I heard Joe's wife was expecting their 2nd child. Does anyone know- is his wife still talking to him. Does he have a 2nd child. SAD SAD story- I've known Joe from various perspectives - I hope he is able to get past this - get help and etc.
Yeah he was my band teacher for 4 years too i knew the guy real well, but not as well as i might have thought, i dated (a year bfore all this happened) and was very close to one of the girls whos lifes he helped ruin, the guy was great with words so i can see how he could pull it off so i always had my doubts about him, i was also singled out by him because he always had something against me now i know what that was. He was a great teacher but a horrible person and I'm glade that PERP is where he belongs, Mr B i hope you get to read this i know you know my name real well, good luck in the pen bud.
Mr.billera was my band teacher for 4 years. I never would have guessed that he would do such a thing. I trusted him. When I had a problem with school or something he would always try and help me. What he did was wrong but weren't the girls consenting? I mean, what were they doing at his house in the first place? Mr. Billera was a great teacher and I would still let him be my teacher because he isn't all bad. It's not like he ever tried anything with me.
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you people didnt know mr.billera he was an aewsome teacher.wat he didi was rong .
you lose old timer...... you lose!!!!!!!!
ok to the comment about the comment about the Shut up your dumb....ofcourse I would be more involved if it was my house rather than a house 2000 miles away....BUT ITS MY HOUSE!...the point of what I was saying is that you guys dont know the family, or Billera, or the girls....you have no emotional relationship for the people...you dont feel for them...you're just saying that because it is an unfortunate even...and you want to express that...so just say, that it is an unfortunate event...you dont care what really happened...if you did, you'd try to counsel the young girls, or offer aid the families, and wife...horrible....just continue living your soap opera lives
To the person who wrote all of the "shut up, you're dumb" comments, you mentioned that people care more about events that happen close to home. Isn't that true about all people, including yourself? Wouldn't you be more upset if your house burned down that if someone 2000 miles away lost their house to a fire? It just makes sense. And your comment "you don't know him or the girls" is pretty stupid. How about shut up, YOU'RE dumb. A lot of people know Joe and the girls, and love them too, so it's a very painful event for all who do. Even for people who don't know them well, they can and do feel sypathy for them. You sound like a very angry person and I'm just curious if you are a student or an adult, male or female, or whether you have ever been a victim yourself for you to be such an authority on the matter.
what happens now? we get a new band teacher what else?
A twelve year old does not "concent". They are brainwashed to believe they are wanted and loved. They are manipulated by cunning individuals. All young people that age struggle with their identity and self confidence and people like Joe Billera take advantage of that.
Yes, it's true that children were married at a young age years ago, but times have changed since then. There have been scientific studies that have shown that just as the body developes gradually, so does the brain. For example, you can't teach an infant to do long division. Their brains just are not developed enough to comprehend such a concept. It has been shown that a human brain is not fully developed until the late teens. Some teens may seem mature, but the fact remains that their brains are not fully able to comprehend the emotional consequences to a physical action. Therefore it is up to the adults to guide and protect those children who have not yet reached that level of decision making skill. If exposed to an adult senario before they are ready, they can and usually are terribly scarred. Trust issues infiltrate their entire lives...forever. I am speaking from personal experience. It has far reaching effects. Those adults that take advantage of the emotionally naive don't really love the children that they abuse. They just manipulate them into believing that they do so they can get what they want. When a child grows up and eventually learns what love really means, the damage has already been done. They suddenly learn the difference, and the pain of the abuse lingers in every aspect of their lives.
Im looking for a good argument here people...put something in here that child "predators" can say...oh see why i cant do this......NOT THE STUPID OBVIOUS SOCIAL STANDARDS....because mind you the standards for our ancestors was that it was ok to do what billera did........THINK PEOPLE THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Youre an idiot...stop acting like this is such a negative in the girls lives...you act as though they had no part in it....THEY CONSENTED..."the 12 year old CHILD is not responsible for the actions of a grown man"....okay...you did exactly what i asked not to do...you argue my point with the stupid obvious. You didnt even give support as to why a 12 year old child isnt responsible for the actions of a grown man. HORRIBLE! you talk as though 12 year olds are robots and all are the same. At 12 years old, it is not uncommon for young girls and boys to have sexual relations...i see it all the time with the kids I work with...what difference is it if they do it with someone near their age or someone older?...really what is the difference. you said that these girls were going to be scarred?...Yea Right!...get over it....you dont know pain....its just sex and no one got raped.......SHUT UP! YOUR DUMB!
Amen!
I also went to high school with Joe, and was good friends with his older sister. A member of the color guard, a member of the Argonauts...I spent three years in school with Joe. When I learned about what Joe had done I was very shocked and dismayed. I could hardly believe that someone I knew so well as a youth could grow up to do what he has done. As a professional working with children, as I do myself....it I just cannot imagine what a 24 year old man (now 30) who had EVERYTHING going for him was thinking. No matter what a 12 year old girl does, no matter if she plays a "lolita" role....the 12 year old CHILD is not responsible for the actions of a grown man.....even if that adult "thinks" that the child is consenting. A 12 year old child CAN NOT consent to any sort of sexual relationship with an adult. Period. There is not a question in this whatsoever!!! We as a community establish the rules/laws we are to live by...and create the laws. The laws to protect children from adult predators are there for a reason. How damaged do you think these 12 year old girls will be when they grow older? When do they get a childhood? They don't because Joe took that away from them. He stole their childhood, he stole their innocence, and their ability to trust. The worst part is that children who experience this type of sexual trauma in their childhood frequently grow up to have the potential to do this to others as well... with a good intervention...hopefully these girls will be able to heal and have the best possible lives possible...and hopefully have productive and happy lives. My heart goes out to the families. And as far as Joe goes... I hope that he will someday come to admit his wrongs, and find a way to become a productive member of society. His career is over, and really his life will never be the same. He is a Megan's Law predator who can be listed on the internet, and the public, once he is released from prison, will have every right to know his every move for the rest of his life. I am so saddened to see someone who had such a bright opportunity for his life throw his entire life away....and pleased that at least someone finally listened to these poor children....shame on the Salem keizer school district for trying to cover this up. And finally, to all of my former Viking friends/family ..(North Salem High School) and my fellow Argo's.... Please take care of yourselves, and take this horrible event to heart...check how you are living your lives......PLEASE.... I don't want to see any of my other friends go through this.... there have been TOO many of us who I have seen in the headlines for not so wonderful or even horrendous things... please please take an inventory of your life and choose to live a life that you and all of us can have pride in.
oh and i wouldnt doubt that other teachers had something to do with all this aswell....i mean there were parent complaints that never reached the board?!?!.....does that ring a bell to ne one?....someone should get fired and also sent to jail....i mean talking to other students...they same behavior billera used is used by other teachers.....
oh and all of you are soooooo stupid to keep responding with stuff along the lines of "ooooh my hear goes out to his family and to the salem district"....SHUT UP!...YOU'RE DUMB!....you dont know him or the girls....there are worse cases....MILLIONS OF EM...around the world, people dying.....INFANTS DYING....but ooooh my gosh something relatively close to me(oregon) just happened so now im apparently involved...SHUT-UP!....YOU'RE DUMB!...you people only care about things that happen near you or something like that but if it doesnt involve you at all...well then your life is filled with joy and happiness and no bad is happening in the world huh?.....WRONG!...SHUT UP!.....YOU'RE DUMB!...The truth of it is, if you care about it soooo much....DO SOMETHING!....not just say you feel for the family cus guess what!?!....YOU DONT....SHUT UP...YOU'RE DUMB!...youve never been through this and you dont care cus prlly right now you're doing somethign without a though of what you just said......LOSERS!....SHUT UP....YOU'RE DUMB!
hey...i heard that the girls he had sexual relations with were hot?....SO WHATS THE BIG DEAL!?!?...so what if they were in middl school and he was 24. Back in in history it was ok to marry girls of 11, 12, 13 years old....its only recently(like about 1920's) when that became wrong...ooooh!?!.....look, remember when you all you were in 8th grade...I would have loved it if I was able to get with any of my hot teachers. I know girls that were sluts in 7th and 8th grades....nothing has changed....they're still sluts...the only difference is that they are more experienced....so what difference is it going to make if they have sex when they're in middle school as opposed to having sex when they're 18....only cus society says that 18 is the legal age?...come on thats crap...and i dont like crap...it stinks!....
Someone dare to argue this with valid points and not something like..."you're dumb" or "because theyre just little girls"....try not to point the obvious and just argue the argument....losers!
that comment by norfleet is crap, he would never write in and he doesnt even have kids!!!!!!!
well sence it is true you don't to tell people what they should and shouldn't do .because on febuary 14 billera was con victed.
I can't believe he would thing to girls that re teenagers.. If i ever see him again i would yell at him i don't why he did this. He needs to be killed. I feel really sorry for his wife and son and the baby that's on the way. If i ever had the time i would write him a letter
I can't believe he would thing to girls that re teenagers.. If i ever see him again i would yell at him i don't why he did this. He needs to be killed. I feel really sorry for his wife and son and the baby that's on the way. If i ever had the time i would write him a letter
m in a band called Lullix and I was really hating my eye contacts so i went to my eye doctor and he punched me in the balls.
Now that the sentencing is over, I hope the victims and their families, along with Joe?s wife and family, can find the strength to pull together and begin the long process of overcoming the pain and deception of yet another predator unable to control his desire for young girls. Joe Billera taught band to both of my daughters. He has a wonderful talent to teach music. If you have ever been to one of his concerts you would be amazed at the incredible music he was able to produce from such a young group of kids. It?s too bad that he, like an alcoholic, drug addict or someone with a gambling problem, was not able to understand his weakness and get help. When a trusted adult crosses the line, and uses his authority to control young children (especially a teacher) it shock?s us. As Houck parents were unaware of the solicitations that were going on right under our noses. We had absolutely no knowledge of what our children may have been subjected to in our ?No Tolerance? school system. I hope the Salem school district will step up to the plate and investigate how they dropped the ball on this one and accept some of the responsibility for these unfortunate circumstances.
This whole thing is so hard for me to believe, I live in the Portland area and I only knew Joe from my last two years at camp. I was absolutely devastated when I heard on the news this morning. I never knew anything like this had ever been an issue with him. He seemed so cool and normal. He just seemed like a good teacher. My heart goes out to all of you that have been affected by this.
My heart goes out to these young girls and their devastated families. I'm truly sorry for the pain they're going through. My heart breaks especially for Joe's wife, a friend of mine, who not only has to deal with hurt, betrayal, but also has to gather up strength to raise 2 little ones without a father around. I know with God's grace, she'll get through this. Personally, I'm still in disbelief... Joe was not only a fellow college alumnus, a co-worker, but also a good friend who was always willing to help. Teaching along side of him, I saw his strengths, and like all of us, he had weaknesses. Whether small or big, we all SIN. It is the ugliness of sin that messes up lives. So if you must hate, hate sin, not the person. Only God has the power to judge, forgive, and heal those who are hurt by sin? and I know that God still loves Joe, regardless of this despicable crime. I encourage all of us to have compassion as well? to love even our enemies. Hateful words only make matters worse (think about Joe?s 2 young children who may read your words someday... Joe is still their dad). Joe grew up without a positive relationship with his father. Joe?s children need to grow up knowing that they are still loved by their dad, no matter what has happened. The best thing we can do is to continue to pray, to pray for the girls, their families, Joe?s family, and the entire Houck/ NSHS community?? for God to heal & give peace that will surpass all understanding.
My two daughters are involved in MIddle School Music programs. While some middle schoolers are into exploring their sexuality, many others are not. They're into games & fantasy books. Boys still have cooties. Innocent kids can easily be groomed to fill a predators' needs. If you've ever taken the time to investigate the damage done to abused children, and their families by sexual predators, you'd know that a twelve year sentence is far too little to pay. From a parents point of view, it's almost a slap in the face.
This girls are high schoolers NOW. But they started out as junior high students. All of his vicitms did. He was at least a 24 year old man who was preying on 11, 12, and 13 year olds. Middle schoolers, for all of their big talk, are still little kids. It's up to the adults in their life to keep that in perspective NOT the kids.
We loved Joe. We still do. But I think it's true, what the prosecutor said. He truly was as good a sex offender as he was a teacher.
I was "best friends" with his little brother back in the day, and his wife worked at my local bank branch (she was smoking hot). I met him a few times, he seemed nice, never got touched by him though. It seems, now that he has been sentenced to 12.5 years, and pleaded guilty, that he did something.
You know, it's odd, I just watched "Lolita" last night, and that movie definetly brings up questions of pedophilia, and who uses who, etc. If some of the rumors are true (he bought girls meals/clothes/movie tickets, etc.) it may be possible that the "victims" are complicit in these "crimes" as well. I mean, these are high schoolers, they know all about sexuality, they are not "helpless victims." It's not like they are elementary students or something. Middle schoolers are a bit different, but they are at least somewhat aware of their own sexual powers. Every 40 year old out there can get the idea out of their head that if you're under 18, you're an innocent little child. It's just not like that anymore.
Basically, give the guy a break. He's a human too. True, he took advantage of his position and did inappropriate things with students, perhaps in a pattern that seems disturbing. But he's still a person, he's doing his time (every day of those 150 months, over 4500 days). When he gets out, I hope he can try to lead a normal life once again.
12yrs!!! I attended the sentencing and billera has been sentenced to 12yrs in prision. I feel sick! what a joke for what this man did to these girls, to what the district atterny pointed reported. this truly is an injustice. He deserves 20. I saw through him in 98, too bad no one listened then.
Speaking of North Salem, has anyone heard what our old band teacher, Mr. Snyder has to say about any of this? Has he made any statements? I'm too chicken to call and ask him, but this was a man who was too concerned about decency to let the colorguard wear Spandex.."It's just too reavealing"... He has to have been just sick about this, and I can't imagine him seeing any impropriety and not speaking up. Hey, and what the heck do Joe's actual classmates say about him? I was just a freshman when Joe was a senior, and this all surprised the poop out of me. Oh, and what about these absolutely criminally lame statements joe's attorney is making? "basically a little too friendly with some of the gals?" "joe still cares deeply for some of these students"? Can we get this guy charged with anything?
It is true :(
Me too
I have herd the same thing about joe not getting the teaching job at North Salem High after Harry Blake left the school.
I'm curious about the earlier comment about Billera not getting hired at north because of rumors. Has anyone else heard that he applied for a job at north? This is the first I've heard that.
Joe Billera was hired to teach at the University of Oregon Summer Camp in recent years. Conveniently, he was put in charge of the dormitories. His inappropriate behavior of a sexual nature directed towards the high school girls was observed and commented on by numerous students during those summers. As a band parent, I learned about him only after my child had attended the camp for two summers. When I heard about Joe Billera's "overly friendly conduct," I chose not send my child back to camp for a third summer. We found another summer music camp instead. I figure if the kids at the U of O summer camp could deduce what Joe Billera was doing, then surely the other instructors MUST have had at least an inkling. Yet nothing was done to stop him. Joe Billera has been preying upon young girls for years. There is no telling how many of his victims have just not come forward but who will continue to be haunted by him for the rest of their lives.
Joe Billera was hired to teach at the University of Oregon Summer Bamp in recent years. Conveniently, he was put in charge of the dormitories. His inappropriate behavior of a sexual nature directed towards the high school girls was observed and commented on by numerous students during those summers. As a band parent, I learned about him only after my child had attended the camp for two summers. When I heard about Joe Billera's "overly friendly conduct," I chose not send my child back to camp for a third summer. We found another summer music camp instead. I figure if the kids at the U of O summer camp could deduce what Joe Billera was doing, then surely the other instructors MUST have had at least an inkling. Yet nothing was done to stop him. Joe Billera has been preying upon young girls for years. There is no telling how many of his victims have just not come forward but who will continue to be haunted by him for the rest of their lives.
I am interested to hear more from the anonymous statement about "not knowing about billera, but knowing about poop". Please elaborate on your comment. Thanks.
Wonderwoman
I have been around Joe since he first started teaching at houck, I was in the first class he taught there. I remember many times my 8th grade year when I would walk in to the band room for class, and go to his office to talk to him, and he had students sitting on his lap, with his arms around them, so this doesn't surprise me, I actually have been expecting this. He was actually denied a teaching job at North High due to these allegations which where reported by other parents.
he is a jerk last year he told his students not to go to tocobell because he took his victomes their.
di thank he is a big pervert. i hate his guts.
This recent news of Joseph Billera is disheartening, questionable, and unfortunate. However, this is a time for thoughtful discretion on all sides. Nothing is over until its over and checked out. Though extremely talented and gifted, it is not so hard to swallow the idea of this behavior being of truth from this man. I have worked along side Joe in the past with Argonauts and Northern Lights marching bands and he is a mass of musical elation and pride. HE LOVES teaching and loves a challenge. I looked up to him on many occasions in the past as did his students and peers. He may have the chance now to find himself and challenge what is to come and to challenge his mind into healthy behavior personally and PROFESSIONALLY! The teaching world can be a rough political ground almost daily. There are some parents out there that are out for themselves at the expense of their childs education experience. Lawsuits, quaffs, etc... And there are teachers that take advantage of the fact that they have a gift- to get to teach young minds. Some push things too far on a personal level. When it endangers people, than all has lost!! Music is something that I am a part of every day and I can't imagine not having it in my life. I hope that these accusations are false. However if not, then due crime is due time. We don't need anyone else to poison these children with hate, fear, guilt or sadness. That includes media, parents, teachers and educators. Music is Everything!!!!!
Sincerely,
Wonderwoman ...................
P.S. Poop is not a bad word. Overcome it!!!
The O.C rocks!!!!!!!! ryan is soooo hot
Norfleet or Ivan....yes, he is a gifted musician....but a demented soul...he needs help....not someone to sugar coat what he's done...children are children....you should have punched him in highschool...Billera will get the help he needs in prison. Though what he did was wrong we need to achnowledge it and pray for him and the many people like him that are not caught
I went to high school and college with Mr. Billera. While my impression of him during those years was less than favorable, it would be his early teaching career that would solidify my very poor opinion of his character, For years, rumors of Mr. Billera's "friendliness" with students under his charge became commonplace - to the point where some parents began to notice and discuss the situation.
This is truly unfortunate not only for the alleged victums and their families, but for the Salem-Keizer School District as well. Dispite his flaws and now this sad business that he finds himself, Mr. Billera IS a gifted musician and teacher.
my butthole very stinky
go tell it on the mountain.....go tell it on the mountain....go tell it on the mountain
well, i dont know about billera...but i do know about poop
Joe Billera was also my teacher at Houck Middle School and my instructor in marching band. I believe that Billera did commit the crimes due to inappropriate behavior he committed during sessions with students. I feel he should be punishable as far as the extent of the law so that other CHILDREN cannot be manipulated and abused by this pervert
I can say Joe Billera was my band teacher for five years and I do NOT believe he did this. I hope that the truth comes out and I believe his innocent plea was very reasonable and true.
I went to high school with Joe. It's just so hard to believe or accept, so I think you're doing him an injustice by adding an *alleged* perp to this site. Thank you.